LOST IN MIND: Saturn and Neptune in Pisces

additional content added 20 May 2025

From early 2025-early 2026 Saturn & Neptune are transitioning out of Pisces. Neptune's Pisces effect began 2011 and Saturn's impact began early 2023. This sign-planet combination has majorly challenged our experience of "reality"

Lost in Mind

can be countered by

Found in Space

The mutable signs Pisces Gemini Virgo Sagittarius all share the theme of Mind.

 Pisces and Sagittarius are aligned in certain respects. 

Both signs are disposed towards expansion and exploration of territory beyond the everyday preoccupations of the mind

Gemini and Virgo are also paired. These signs are oriented to information and detail. They are most oriented to the everyday minutiae of facts figures data trivia quizzes puzzles.

All four of the mutable signs are capable of crossover if their basic orientation is contrasted with another mutable theme in the birth chart  - such as a Gemini planet in the 9th house adding a Sagittarian influence or Mercury located in Pisces - combining to express through Gemini Virgo and Pisces.

LOST IN MIND can refer to the mental clutter of Gemini and Virgo. The gorging on information and detail to the point of mental exhaustion - and whether expressed vocally through verbal diarrhoea or through copious written material.

Pisces and Sagittarius - the signs most likely to be attracted to drugs and escapism can also seek to be lost in mind due to their planetary links to Neptune and Jupiter that both seek to go beyond boundaries and explore exciting creative imaginative or new mental experiences that offer release/relief or freedom from the frustrations and petty details of mundane life. Both signs can be prone to excesses and addictions. Pisces prefers mind-altering chemistry if the lure of drugs surpasses creative imaginative options. 

Sagittarians readily pursue their highs through high adrenalin adventure and sport if not oriented towards knowledge and wisdom - all these options can create obsessive attachments - the fervour of sports fans is evident. The growing sports betting trend is seen as problematic. The academic devoted wholly to research at the expense of a balanced life. All are lost in mind.

A large swathe of people will have a significant mutable sign orientation - whether directly by one of the four signs referenced above or due to the influence of their related planetary influence - Mercury for Gemini and Virgo Jupiter for Sagittarius and Neptune for Pisces. So this is an issue for humanity and for the human collective mindstream.

The transits of Neptune and Saturn through Pisces have resulted in many people making a deeper connection to their spiritual essence - wanting to find themself - but also many people wanting to lose themself. 

This split within humanity is being recognised and it is a polarisation needing to be healed.

Shifting from Lost in Mind to Found in Space is a challenge in a world driven by information data chattering voices over-thinking perpetual movement and noise.

There is little incentive to jump of the high speed bullet train and trust you will land safely. But you will. You just have to choose it. 

Choosing Found in Space

In 1966 Timothy Leary [born 1920]  proposed to his hippy followers to "turn on tune in drop out" suggesting they abandon mainstream society and pursue and inner guided life. But drugs were a big part of that journey. 

The 60s are very relevant to the current era - both on account of the divinatory 60 year cycle [China] and planetary cycles. But we can evolve what Leary proposed and find space without drugs because inner spaciousness is something that exists within our DNA  - our celestial formless origins. We just have to remove the clutter. Turn down the volume of everyday life and return to the subtleties of the natural world the swaying of trees in the wind the flight of birds the rising and setting sun the glow of the moon the touch of raindrops and explore the life held beyond our human prison. 

Entering the entrancement of pure life is how to be found in space

Gestation into the World

Pisces mirrors the third trimester state of consciousness in the womb - the 3 month period before birth when we know fully our essence is formless.

The astrological correspondence is the 12th house - the realm of experience that contains the storage of our personal unconscious but also that of humanity as a collective. Our personal vault holds all the imprints from prior lives lived in physical form so every incarnation whether male female and possibly other species and our behaviours thoughts feelings in those lives are perpetual - with periods of leakage and overlay within the present life.

Life as we experience it is not a truly physical experience - it is based in projections from our internal consciousness 

And we cannot truly call our various lives "incarnations" or "past" as there is no form no past no future no linear time aside from the human constructs we create for practical purposes. 

Anything we have ever been or felt and will be is able to leak through into any present moment. Truly we have multiple versions of ourself that can express. For this reason alone our psychological status can vary dramatically depending on what imprint comes into the present. From this level of complexity a lot of functional imbalance can arise. The Covid pandemic era  [ contagion is a Pisces event ] has given rise to a world heavily permeated by reality-challenging material and reality-distorted ideas and beliefs - sustained and intensifying even 5 years after lockdowns [Saturn]

With the collective mind-field being so impacted many have struggled with the amount of agitation activated in the unconscious level of mind. This reflects a dominance of negatively expressed Neptune over positive Saturn - an inability to find the ground.

In Pisces eras there is a collective urge to find ways of transcending physical reality. This arises due to the stark contrast between two very different worlds: the challenges and distress experienced during our physical life lessons compared to the comfort when existing purely as consciousness when not incarnated. Transcending is different from trying to escape.

Trying to balance out these two known states - physical and non-physical  - is humanity's greatest collective challenge due to the amnesia that takes hold once fully physical life unfolds after birth. The challenge is evident in all the methods people use to try and escape our unconscious feelings of imprisonment in the world of material form. 

Escapism is a defective option because it is an attempt to suppress psychological stress. The only workable way to live in physical reality is to keep anchored in the heaven that exists on Earth: the life forms and patterns that are not based in mental disorder - trees plants birds animals; the cycles of each day and season ;  the flows of wind and water. 

Humans are now more than ever lost in mind and it is a mind distorted by conditioning in the physical world. This is why teachers urge us to empty the mind. To gaze and enter direct experience and turn off the commentary. Practices like meditation or mantra are able to encourage mental space by means of developing a frequency shift in your level of consciousness. This opens a pathway to heightened awareness about our true essence: the awareness we carry as a connected aspect of the larger spiritual consciousness that is embedded in all of life at every level.

Only on Earth in an illusion of separate form can we feel alone but while here we can also nullify that misperception through conscious acts of connection within a state of presence - sustained focus without thought.

This type of development is urged under Saturn and Neptune in Pisces. We are challenged to strip away our addiction to a fully physical life and our immersion in endless mental chatter. Both states of unease reflect a lack of groundedness.

The paradox is that we need to be earthed - very present - in order to transcend our distress experienced in living in the 3rd dimensional physical state.

Clearly city life is the most adverse environment for achieving such balance.

The exit of Neptune and Saturn - leaving Pisces for Aries - does not end the need for spiritual evolution while embodied. The cycles overlay and Pisces themes will endure in the context of the Aries periods - 2025-2028 for Saturn and 2025-2039 for Neptune when even more people will choose to dissolve their Ego and its selfish demands and seek peace and harmony with others.

 

The underlying truth will permeate collective consciousness: we are not separate beings any more than a branch is separate from its tree.

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