Saturn Square Neptune - forces opposed 2015-2016

Saturn in conflict with Neptune in the period 2015-2016 produces an array of adverse energies, with often significantly difficult or challenging processes or outcomes. 

WORLD EVENTS OF RELEVANCE

• Jihadist mission to crush Western infidels 
• Western alliance against global terrorism
• Rejection of other faiths
• Fundamentalist beliefs spread widely
• Environmental devastation from El Nino climate or weather extremes
• Economic decline

Many of the major Saturn in Sagittarius vs Neptune in Pisces issues are identified here:

• Clash of beliefs - expect strongly opposed beliefs, repressive philosophies and rejection of religious or spiritual  perspectives
• Drought - Saturn restricting Neptune's water = declining soil moisture
• Damaging deluge or flooding - Saturn brings damaging effects after water initiates breakdown
• Restricted growth - Sagittarian expansion limited by Saturn's restrictive effect on water
• Maritime disasters - Saturn causes malfunction, restrictions, problems for vessels and people when travel by water or recreation in water is involved
• Insomnia - Neptune and Pisces are related to sleep. Saturn causes inhibited/restricted sleep
• Oil slump - Neptune's relationships include water, oil, chemicals, drugs, medicines, alcohol. Oil is heading downward and likely to be depressed on international markets whenever Saturn in Sagittarius is in conflict with Neptune in Pisces.
• Economic downturn - e.g. a restricted growth cycle has once again resumed in China, with global implications.
• Reality versus Dreaming contrasts clearly the mindset of Saturn versus Neptune. Unrealistic schemes for business growth will fail.
• Legal problems due to alcohol/drug abuse or excess
• Liver problems from drug/alcohol abuse or excess
• Over-extension problems eg risk taking, excess physical effort due to poor judgement, confusion, being unrealistic
• Arthritic pelvic conditions due to toxic overload, dietary-induced inflammation.
• Paint, gas, chemical and oil related problems also includes biological problems from related toxicity, any negative outcomes from the use of such substances. Problems with painters, paint quality.
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POSITIVES
A positive outcome for Pisces/Neptune dominant people:
Saturn is the reality factor offset against Neptune's illusions, delusions, fantasies, escapism.

This can bring Pisces/Neptunians down to earth in a beneficial way, bringing back structure, goals, plans, ambitions, managed growth, career focus -as a counterpoint to the dissolute, aimless, drifting, unfocussed existence that is likely to have preceded this new opportunity for balance.

A good time for sports people [Sagittarius] to abandon drugs and alcohol [Pisces] and make a commitment to attain mastership in their field [Saturn]

Saturn and Neptune operate in two vastly different harmonic frequencies and various negative outcomes are anticipated when these fields

 cross paths.

The period from mid November 2015-October 2016 will show many of the outcomes that are consistent with the incompatibility
 of these two energies.

Positive achievements will only arise due to considerable effort 
and self management.

Overall, most people will encounter a significant restraint or restriction in their lives - or observe such effects spreading globally in the nearly year long period of effect.

With Saturn in Sagittarius and Neptune in Pisces, in close range of a 90 degree angle to each other in the period 2015-2016, the mutable zodiac signs Sagittarius, Gemini, Pisces, Virgo are most affected.

Saturn remains in Sagittarius 2015-2016-2017 - until December 20 2017

Neptune remains in Pisces 2011-2026

This summary of Saturn-Neptune covers the essence of the November 2015 post -which can be accessed for fuller context in that time frame.

update Dec 3 2015
The start of December 2015 saw examples of where on planet earth the signature themes were being grounded: record flooding in one state in India -reflecting the destructive forces of Saturn-Neptune in combination

read content: Heaviest rains in more than a century.

In Wales, UK heavy downpours, floods at start of Dec 2015:

This type of environmental event is occurring in the timeframe of a massive global outpouring of protests regarding the failure of governments to address extreme weather -which many believe are proof of "climate change" or "global warming". 

The UN global climate conference in Paris COP21 starting Nov 30 2015 was the catalyst for the global activism.

The human lifespan is very brief compared to the historical record which reflects clearly that planet earth has already seen countless cycles of climate and temperature extremes long before human impact.

There is no harm in being more sensitive to environmental imbalances which are likely to be aggravated by human activity and to aim for significantly reduced impacts, but the environmental atrocities born of corporate greed and centuries of trashing our planet cannot be reversed in a short time frame.

Planetary cycles are traceable indicators of past activity.

Saturn in Sagittarius in combination with Neptune in Pisces strongly reflects the desire of many to curb [Saturn] excessive [Sagittarius] gas emissions [Neptune/Pisces] & so this theme will also remain in force noticeably in the period until October 2016 in particular.

Heat, Flood, Drought & Fire - written in the stars

Heatwave conditions and associated fire hazards are surfacing in early October 2015 news
but extremes in the natural forces are also delivering flood and drought

Parts of New Zealand, Australia and South Africa all in early Spring 2015 in the Southern Hemisphere are experiencing unusual high temperatures in some regions.

In the US:

Right now in South Carolina, floodwaters from an epic and unprecedented deluge over the weekend [October3-4] are coursing their way southeastward, propelled by gravity, through complex networks of creeks, rivers, lakes and streams. Along the way, the bulge of water has breached at least 18 dams, while threatening many more, and the flood woes of the Palmetto State show no sign of abating for the next few weeks. -full report

Southern Hemisphere extreme conditions well before summer are presenting significant fire risk in already dry rural areas -with homes lost due to multiple fires across the Canterbury and Otago regions of NZ's South Island.

Bush fires are threatening homes in Victoria, Australia.
In South Africa deaths from a heatwave

High to extreme composite fire danger down the eastern flank of the South Island NZ Oct 7 2015

The vulnerability of eastern parts of NZ is consistent with anticipated strong El Nino conditions:

Source page

 Prior to the modern era, El Nino events occurred in the periods 1925-1926, 1930-31, 1932-1933, 1939-1940, 1940-1941, 1941-1942.

The strongest event in recent decades was the 1997-98 El Nino.
Weak El Ninos occurred 2004-2007, Moderate in 2009-10.
The return of El Nino for 2015-2016 is potentially strong to very strong & if a run of El Nino years occurs as in 1930-1933 or 1939-1942 then the flow on economic effect will also be sustained.

What's written in the Stars.

Planetary indicators have been observed for millennia in order to understand the natural elements -fire, earth, air and water.

Everything in existence is subject to the balance or imbalance of these environmental factors

Eclipses and very strong solar-lunar events can aggravate heat conditions.

A precedent event

September 28 2015 full moon total solar eclipse -at closest perigee for 2015 = Supermoon - in the fire indicator Aries.

This will aggravate prevailing conditions.

Eclipses set in place conditions for at least 6 months -until the next full moon or new moon eclipse

Not surprising that a lot of heat is in the atmosphere, hot winds, dry conditions

some drought headlines Oct 7 2015

So drought is already being felt as reported in Papua New Guinea

report

But the full eclipse pattern included the flood indicators as well, strongly in effect from mid Sept 2015 and flowing into October.
Consistent with a scenario of sustained El Nino conditions, the outlook is concerning:

September 2015-December 2016 a year of very noticeable extreme conditions involving too much or too little water.

These are globally relevant patterns and likely to affect many locations but not all.

Regional vulnerability is likely to already to be evident.

Flood and drought are strong to extreme in the period.

Some locations may experience both conditions. 
September-October 2015 the flood energies are prominent 

November into December 2015 - drought and destructive floods both likely - locations have their signature pattern of vulnerability. The past can be a good indicator of returning patterns.

January into February 2016  big flood events

March 2016 - extremes in drought and flood events

June-July-August-September 2016 - flood and drought

November into December 2016 flood

 The Indicators considered in the noted timeframe

 Saturn-Neptune is the drought pattern when Saturn limits water or retains heat

 Saturn is the dryness and restriction indicator.

 Neptune is the water indicator.

Jupiter is the opposing force to Saturn, bringing abundance or excess.

Jupiter is also the growth indicator.

Saturn is the indicator of failure, loss, damage.

When Jupiter amplifies Neptune, floods, deluges occur 

When Saturn is restraining Neptune dryness and droughts occur

When Saturn restrains Jupiter, growth and production decline.

Saturn-Neptune can also indicate destruction through water. 

Moons nodal axis when activated by Neptune, Jupiter or Saturn.

Mutable signs Pisces, Sagittarius and Virgo especially relevant if in effect for Neptune, Jupiter or Saturn.

This is not the limit of possible indicators.

For example Jupiter or Uranus in Aries will bring extreme or unusual heat.

Both were in Aries in 2011 but being slow moving, Uranus remains in Aries 2011-2019.

Jupiter in Leo will amplify solar irradiation.

Further reading on this site includes an indepth look at drought in the US tracked over several years.

Virgo Eclipse, Aries Supermoon September 2015

September 2015 is an Eclipse month

 with the end of month event being 

the strongest Supermoon for the year.

Latest: scroll to end for Supermoon analysis

The first big celestial event of September bearing significant terrestrial impacts is the partial solar eclipse at the Virgo New Moon which builds up from September 10, reaches exactitude on September 13 and has a 6 month period of effect.

Extreme states of mind arise in vulnerable people – noticeable in news reports from as early as Sept 8 but remaining in effect during the 6 month eclipse timeframe. The aggravating effect of Pluto at 90 degree angle to Mercury is involved.

Minds losing balance over issues of disempowerment.

This does not augur well for people caught up in the globally significant refugee crisis, feeling stressed, displaced, harassed.

It is not good for people in any context who are ready to explode

update October 1

A mass shooting at an Oregon community college. Killer committed suicide

The Virgo issues 

in public consciousness and arising in news reports will relate to  employment/unemployment as well as health matters, especially related to dietary choices and nutrition -what you are consuming and what effects you are experiencing.

update: September 14: A pattern of transport related tragedies -sea, air, road crashes surrounding the Virgo eclipse in mid September reflect a Saturn-Pluto-Mercury combo which signifies destructive and often fatal events [Saturn-Pluto] associated with all forms of transport [Gemini-Sagittarius] 

update: Sept 24

Fonterra and Agresearch are two NZ companies which announced in mid Sept big job cuts  -230 from Fonterra in its continuing downsizing and Agresearch tipped to shed up to 90 positions

 Sporting Achievement figures prominently in September with one example being The Rugby World Cup opening on September 18 with a killer instinct energy. Expect this to be a volatile, intense competition with some poor performances and surprising or unexpected outcomes over the course of the 6 week event.
update: Japan beat South Africa on Sept 20 in the first shock outcome of the RWC 
update: Wales beat England in RWC shock #2 
update:  Australia beat England -hosts leave = RWC shock #3
update: Killer instinct was also in effect when a tiger fatally mauled its keeper at a NZ zoo on Sept 20


Aggressive, militaristic energy in broader contexts arises around the Libra-Aries Supermoon, from 25 Sept and extending into October Libran New Moon opposite Uranus in Aries bring the war and peace dynamics strongly to the fore.

Survivalist intense battles in war zones and in the sports arenas. 
update Sept 25 - days ago the human stampede in Mina, Saudi Arabia resulting in huge fatalities and injuries, is relevant to the forces of self-survival versus care of others.
update Sept 30
Russia has commenced air attacks in Syria claiming to target ISIS controlled areas. This is disputed by the US claiming the opposite. The two superpowers are also at odds over whether to support Syria's President Assad

For individuals in general, issues of relating arise under the Supermoon conditions –determining partnership needs versus personal needs and what sort of balance is needed.

Venus and Mars are the peace and war planets involved in the Supermoon event which is a total lunar eclipse.

The positioning of both these planets at the eclipse show adverse influences upon socio-economic issues – Venus is also an indicator of finance and banking but it is not the only obvious sign .

update Sept 13

Further confirmation of economic slowdown in China  

update October 1

The issue of male violence and homicide against women again receives high media attention in New Zealand

Relationships destroyed, harmony disrupted
these aspects also accompany the globally relevant impacts already described.

source: thisismoney

Growth and production entered a significant three year period of slowdown from late December 2014, along with oversupply problems in some commodities, leading to less supply - heralded by the passage of Saturn through Sagittarius, underway fully as the late September 2015 eclipse unfolds and coinciding with negative employment indicators likely to arise around Sept 25th - but this is only the beginning -with 2015 shaping up to replicate multiple patterns and cycles evident in 2007 with obvious economic consequences in coming years.

Feeble growth indicators apply as much on the level of crops and horticulture as well as in human-created sources of production.
Environmental factors related to El Nino are predictable using analysis of planetary cycles and the drought-deluge extremes are already evident in keeping with cycles analysis.
What happens on the land is mirrored in economic outcomes.
More planetary analysis re El Nino is in this recent post 

update: Sept 21 - USGS releases updated analysis of El Nino/La Nina effects as well as the Southern Annular Mode
update Oct 1 -NZ El Nino conditions show both islands are divided east-west in terms of the effects expected from El Nino: wet in the west and dry in the east

Radio NZ headline Sept 14 -full report

A huge amount of buzz surrounded the US Federal Reserve meeting on September 17- poised to decide whether to raise interest rates from the near zero rate held for the past 7 years. The last peak was in June 2006 at 5.25%.
A rise in late 2015 is seen by observers as the start of a sequence of increases. Baltimore Sun report
Expectation of slow growth has kept the rate so low -so if the Fed understands the cycles of the planets and particularly when Saturn is in a very restraining mode re growth = read NOW - there will be no change.
update: NO CHANGE in interest rates determined by US Fed on Sept 17. Many global markets lost ground with this announcement.

Intensity builds in the period September 22-28 with the destructive, annihilating energies of the Pluto-Saturn-Mars combo that are strongly positioned to manifest economic wipeouts.

It is likely that the market volatility of  in the June-September 2015 will endure a major downswing in the 4^th week of September.

Commodities again are the black hole stocks
update Sept 29 - IMF releases world economic outlook report with focus on commodities slump. Growth forecasts across the globe have failed to meet forecasts for the 2012-2015 period.

 & a sample of Google search headlines for commodities:

These factors arising in this significant month increase the perception of  a developing global recession adding to trends identified in blog posts here since June 2015.

Eclipses and Supermoons have a marked affect on weather and will aggravate prevailing patterns related to extreme conditions. 
It is important to note that the eclipse energy does not necessarily produce a coincident outcome around the period of eclipse occurrence: the precursor conditions for an outcome can be seeded at that time for a later birthing within the usually 6 month window of influence. 
This applies equally to environmental affects as well as the energies affecting human activity

update Sept 24  - September is especially vulnerable to extreme water events since Jupiter is in opposition to Neptune effective through the month

Various flood locations in the lower North Island of New Zealand are a clear example in the middle and fourth week of Sept.

read full report on RT.com

The Chile quake and tsunami of Weds 16 September in the strong energy period of the Sept 13 eclipse is consistent with powerful eclipse energy, if extreme conditions are indicated as likely to amplify the already significant potentials for stress upon earth's structure and turbulence within earth's atmosphere.
Not all eclipses produce such high magnitude events

Further analysis shows the September 28 Supermoon eclipse  has elevated environmental risks identified due to the disturbances in natural forces unleashed at the September 13 eclipse and earthquake potentials should be considered to be at the significant alert level in the build-up 3 day period especially Friday September 25.

 Update 29 Sept: powerful typhoon Dujuan has made landfall on the 28th in Taiwan with 150kph winds and 2 feet of rain. Thousands evacuated
update Oct 5:  Cargo ship El Faro declared lost in Hurricane Joaquin on October 1. El Faro left port in the wake of the biggest supermoon of 2015- also read Astroblog post on El Faro

In addition the aggressive energies unleashed in the Supermoon lineup have human impact: a significant Jihadist strike using missile technology is within the range of potentials in the end of September timeframe.
Updates Sept 28: BBC report of Taliban taking control of the Afghan city of Kunduz: hundreds of militants stormed the city before dawn -"Kunduz has a huge strategic significance as it is considered a gateway to Afghanistan's northern provinces and shares a border with Tajikistan, Afghanistan's Central Asian neighbour"
Saudi regime accused of bombing civilian wedding party in Yemen

Update Sept 21

Astrological indicators
If New Zealand has a noticeable response to the prevailing energy of the Sept 28 Supermoon, the prior period, September 25 around 6 am is worth looking at

 Overnight on Mon14-Tues 15 Sept I had a vision during sleep of an oblique aerial view of New Zealand's North Island - an angled perspective like seen when travelling over at great height. The whole island was convulsing. This was just an imprint lasting one or two seconds.
Within days, the M8.3 quake in Chile occurred and NZ did get tidal surges from the tsunami generated.
The 15 quakes over M2 recorded in NZ since Tues Sept15 morning have not had anything beyond a moderate seismic reading - so the vision of a whole island convulsing did not come to pass in the time frame of the Chile quake, but with the strength of the Supermoon in the imminent outlook, the possibility of major seismic activity in any vulnerable global location cannot be outrightly dismissed.

[update Sept 24

A M5.1 quake in central North Island volcanic zone, south of Rotorua at 6.47 am on this day, was widely felt to the east and south, despite being at significant depth -167kms. 

Felt reports mostly far south of the Rotorua region event

 This event occurred in the zone I consider most vulnerable at this time to a yet-to-occur significant destructive quake event and has occurred a day after release of an enhanced tsunami warning for the central east coast regarding the volcanic zone extending down from the Kermadec Trench and into central North Is.
Potentials remain for further strong seismic activity in this central zone coincident with the September the Supermoon

click to enlarge or read full report

update October 14 -New Zealand North Island experienced a severe M5.7 quake on Oct 12 2015 at the tectonic plate boundary down the island's lower east coast.

Felt reports were widespread -source
This event also occurred within 4 weeks of the Sept 16 Chile quake, as foreseen by alternative forecaster Ken Ring of Predict Weather
Plate boundary agitation can be regarded as connected to the forces set in motion by the M8.3 Chile event, all triggered by the amplified solar-lunar cycle still in effect [6 month strength].
In other words, it's not all over.
For astrologers I note various indicators on Sept 25th able to trigger eclipse potentials:
Pluto stationary direct square Mercury
Jupiter opposite Neptune
Uranus semisextile Chiron
Sun on nodal axis, both on AC-DC axis
Venus 20 LEO activates 5 Cardinal eclipse
Uranus-Chiron at 4 Cardinal
Saturn on Pluto-Mercury midpoint
Saturn square Mars
Pluto-MC= 7 Cardinal
Moon-Saturn =7 Cardinal
Sun-Uranus=Venus-Saturn=Uranus-Node=Uranus-AC
Pluto= Venus-Mars-Saturn
Pluto-Uranus =Saturn
Pluto-Uranus=Mars
Jupiter-Pluto = Neptune-Pluto= Saturn-Uranus
Jupiter-Uranus=Sun-Node-AC
Uranus-Neptune=Sun-Node-AC
Jupiter-Uranus=Uranus-Neptune
Moon= AC-MC
Moon=Node-MC
Moon=Pluto-Chiron 
...and there will be more... but enough here to evoke strong destructive restructuring forces, again involving water and imbalance in vulnerable regions.

update Sept 26

On Friday Sept 25 a damaging and fatal undersea M6.6 quake off Papua, Indonesia

full report

 Also on Friday 25th: 11 tourist kayakers on a southern NZ lake suffered capsize in 40km winds which swamped their canoes. Two drowned, others suffered hypothermia requiring hospital treatment. 
-report
[ Jupiter-Neptune causing excess water effect. Saturn in Sagittarius raises the risk factor in adventure activities -plus the multiple dangerous energies in effect, listed earlier.]

The Chile M8.3 quake chart from Sept 16
also had:
Nodal axis on AC-DC axis as in the Sept 25 chart above.
AC ruler Neptune is opposed by MC ruler Jupiter = big water
Cardinal degrees 4-9 important too as shown in midpoints:
Sun-Uranus, Moon-Neptune, Uranus-Chiron, Uranus-AC, Pluto-MC
AC and MC triggered by Uranus-Neptune, Uranus-Jupiter 

The supermoon eclipse full moon exact point on the 28th has:
Mercury-Node=Sun 
exact opposite Chiron-Uranus=Moon
Uranus-Sun=Pluto
Uranus-Moon=Pluto
Mercury-Uranus=Pluto
Venus-Saturn=Pluto
Jupiter-Uranus, Uranus-Neptune still all linked

But approx an hour after exact full moon opposition - with extra hour for daylight saving = 5pm on Sept 28 will have:
Saturn at the MC
Neptune-Mars-Jupiter aligned with the AC-DC axis
looking something like this:

 This chart was located for Auckland, the largest city and population base in NZ so let's see what Jupiter-Neptune-Mars-Saturn energy unfolds [not an All Blacks RWC match day!]
Extreme and destructive water weather or flood event is a big potential -though Neptune also generates the energies of gases, chemicals, drugs, alcohol and poisons so while water has the capacity to affect the greatest number of people en masse simultaneously, mass Jupiter-Neptune events can also involve gas explosions, chemical and biological toxins.


Eclipses put conditions in place for a 6 month period and can be triggered repeatedly in that period - flow on affects beyond that time frame are also unleashed by the energies generated

Underlying premises

Energy patterns do not affect all people and all places to the same degree at the same time.

We are all connected to the experiences of humanity en masse, but are impacted by varying degrees of separation.

The principle of resonance applies.

People and places most affected have planetary positions in their personal template which resonate by matching degree positions or angular connections to the prevailing patterns.

Your personal template is calculated based on the time, date and place of your birth.

Ongoing influences and developments affect you throughout your life -with the timing indicated by planetary positions which serve to trigger birth potentials.

Planets are tracked in the present, past and future using an Ephemeris of their daily movements.

read more: Tamzin Kay's Astrology 101

Astrology 2015: China in Freefall

Latest: update Oct 13
China import-export data continues downward, with imports a striking 20.4% down in September 2015 vs Sept 2014 

Google Search 28 July 2015 

for the phrase china market

is headed by the entry below

  Several posts on this site, especially since June 2015, have noted the economic situation facing China.

In one June 2015 report here, this exact issue of commodities freefall was forewarned:

This does not mean the damage will be contained within the 4 month period of 2015. And it does not only refer to an isolated effect restricted to China, but China is significant to the world.
The commodities shock then flows into a 3 year period of inhibited growth [ in terms of produce, production, expansion, development]
After that the real austerity energies are laid in place during a 3 year period until December 2020

1924-1932 has many cycles in common with 2012-2020
Boom preceded bust in the US housing market of the 1920's.
Florida investments started to get bad press by January 1925. By 1926 the bust was clear. 
The downturn energies in play affecting material asset investments like land and real estate kicked in in late 1924 and remained strong until December 1926. 
Then the cycle of inhibited growth began, lasting 3 years, extending just past the big market crash of October 1929.
From December 1929 the austerity energies were embedded - during a period of almost 3 years.
 

In terms of another longer global cycle, in July 2015 we are at the equivalent energy point to April 1932 even though a great global economic depression is yet to unfold.
The period April 1935 to April 1942 has an energy equivalent to
April 2019 to April 2026.
1935 saw bank closures in the US, the dropping of the gold standard, economic depression was obvious. People were forced to changed their relationship with money and materialist values.
This timeline shows the US economy had widespread impact on citizens through the 1930s, only lifting with the US late entry into WW2 and the war economy uplift beginning in 1942.

A longer cycle having a powerfully transformational effect on peoples families and their homes and housing covered the period 1914-1939.
An equivalent energy exists in the period 2008-2025.

In a very globalized world environment in this millennium, the cycles of this era will contain many reflections of the early decades of the 20th century, in many diverse locations -not just China- but will not unfold exactly in the same sequence or with exactly the same outcomes.
What is clear is that globalization does have a relationship to contagion in market forces.
Climate effects are also of great significance with regard to economies: China is very vulnerable to extremes of flooding and drought as noted by authors of the study THE 1920S DROUGHT RECORDED BY TREE RINGS AND HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS IN THE SEMI-ARID AND ARID AREAS
OF NORTHERN CHINA:
"we show that there had been significant growth decline in the 1920s and early 1930s throughout a wide area of northern China. This growth depression is indicative of a severe and sustained drought in the 1920s and early 1930s.
This period coincides with the inhibited growth period noted earlier for the 1920's and so a largely agricultural effect is known to have occurred then.
Sustained drought, crop failures led to disease and widespread famine in 1927-29:

Swarms of locusts added to further losses and misery. Epidemics of disease rampaged uncontrolled. The proverbial perfect storm.
El Nino conditions in 2015 are already pointing to heat and drought with Northern China low on drinking water.

El Nino events relevant to the above study occurred in the periods 1925-1926, 1930-31, 1932-1933, 1939-1940, 1940-1941, 1941-1942.
The strongest event in recent decades was the 1997-98 El Nino.
Weak El Ninos occurred 2004-2007, Moderate in 2009-10.
The return of El Nino for 2015-2016 is potentially strong to very strong & if a run of El Nino years occurs as in 1930-1933 or 1939-1942 then the flow-on economic effect will also be sustained.
[USGS latest El Nino report worth reading] Use keyword search on this site for related posts.
update Sept 19:  Los Angeles California received a deluge in mid September 2015 causing chaos and little relief since the parched earth lacked any useful absorption ability, leaving torrents of water to drain away. - related report
update August 24 as predicted on this blog, China continues to experience sharemarket panic

Also read:

Astrology for World & China Economies
and
Dust Bowl Drought -the returning cycles impacting the US