Saturn Square Neptune - forces opposed 2015-2016

Saturn in conflict with Neptune in the period 2015-2016 produces an array of adverse energies, with often significantly difficult or challenging processes or outcomes. 

WORLD EVENTS OF RELEVANCE

• Jihadist mission to crush Western infidels 
• Western alliance against global terrorism
• Rejection of other faiths
• Fundamentalist beliefs spread widely
• Environmental devastation from El Nino climate or weather extremes
• Economic decline

Many of the major Saturn in Sagittarius vs Neptune in Pisces issues are identified here:

• Clash of beliefs - expect strongly opposed beliefs, repressive philosophies and rejection of religious or spiritual  perspectives
• Drought - Saturn restricting Neptune's water = declining soil moisture
• Damaging deluge or flooding - Saturn brings damaging effects after water initiates breakdown
• Restricted growth - Sagittarian expansion limited by Saturn's restrictive effect on water
• Maritime disasters - Saturn causes malfunction, restrictions, problems for vessels and people when travel by water or recreation in water is involved
• Insomnia - Neptune and Pisces are related to sleep. Saturn causes inhibited/restricted sleep
• Oil slump - Neptune's relationships include water, oil, chemicals, drugs, medicines, alcohol. Oil is heading downward and likely to be depressed on international markets whenever Saturn in Sagittarius is in conflict with Neptune in Pisces.
• Economic downturn - e.g. a restricted growth cycle has once again resumed in China, with global implications.
• Reality versus Dreaming contrasts clearly the mindset of Saturn versus Neptune. Unrealistic schemes for business growth will fail.
• Legal problems due to alcohol/drug abuse or excess
• Liver problems from drug/alcohol abuse or excess
• Over-extension problems eg risk taking, excess physical effort due to poor judgement, confusion, being unrealistic
• Arthritic pelvic conditions due to toxic overload, dietary-induced inflammation.
• Paint, gas, chemical and oil related problems also includes biological problems from related toxicity, any negative outcomes from the use of such substances. Problems with painters, paint quality.
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POSITIVES
A positive outcome for Pisces/Neptune dominant people:
Saturn is the reality factor offset against Neptune's illusions, delusions, fantasies, escapism.

This can bring Pisces/Neptunians down to earth in a beneficial way, bringing back structure, goals, plans, ambitions, managed growth, career focus -as a counterpoint to the dissolute, aimless, drifting, unfocussed existence that is likely to have preceded this new opportunity for balance.

A good time for sports people [Sagittarius] to abandon drugs and alcohol [Pisces] and make a commitment to attain mastership in their field [Saturn]

Saturn and Neptune operate in two vastly different harmonic frequencies and various negative outcomes are anticipated when these fields

 cross paths.

The period from mid November 2015-October 2016 will show many of the outcomes that are consistent with the incompatibility
 of these two energies.

Positive achievements will only arise due to considerable effort 
and self management.

Overall, most people will encounter a significant restraint or restriction in their lives - or observe such effects spreading globally in the nearly year long period of effect.

With Saturn in Sagittarius and Neptune in Pisces, in close range of a 90 degree angle to each other in the period 2015-2016, the mutable zodiac signs Sagittarius, Gemini, Pisces, Virgo are most affected.

Saturn remains in Sagittarius 2015-2016-2017 - until December 20 2017

Neptune remains in Pisces 2011-2026

This summary of Saturn-Neptune covers the essence of the November 2015 post -which can be accessed for fuller context in that time frame.

update Dec 3 2015
The start of December 2015 saw examples of where on planet earth the signature themes were being grounded: record flooding in one state in India -reflecting the destructive forces of Saturn-Neptune in combination

read content: Heaviest rains in more than a century.

In Wales, UK heavy downpours, floods at start of Dec 2015:

This type of environmental event is occurring in the timeframe of a massive global outpouring of protests regarding the failure of governments to address extreme weather -which many believe are proof of "climate change" or "global warming". 

The UN global climate conference in Paris COP21 starting Nov 30 2015 was the catalyst for the global activism.

The human lifespan is very brief compared to the historical record which reflects clearly that planet earth has already seen countless cycles of climate and temperature extremes long before human impact.

There is no harm in being more sensitive to environmental imbalances which are likely to be aggravated by human activity and to aim for significantly reduced impacts, but the environmental atrocities born of corporate greed and centuries of trashing our planet cannot be reversed in a short time frame.

Planetary cycles are traceable indicators of past activity.

Saturn in Sagittarius in combination with Neptune in Pisces strongly reflects the desire of many to curb [Saturn] excessive [Sagittarius] gas emissions [Neptune/Pisces] & so this theme will also remain in force noticeably in the period until October 2016 in particular.

Slaughter in Paris November 2015 -written in the stars

Latest: March 18 2016
Fugitive Salah Abdeslam arrested in Belgium...scroll to end
Hundreds wounded, dozens slain in multiple coordinated terrorist strikes in the heart of Paris, where Friday evening activities saw many meet an untimely death, or survive with awful wounds, physical and psychological

What was written in the stars
 for November 13 2015?

The brutal events commenced at 9.20pm local time, extending across diverse locations until 9.53pm

A New Moon in Scorpio was in effect, having reached exact conjunction on November 11. The beginning moonlight began to emerge on the 12th. 

This was no ordinary Scorpio cycle -as noted in the November 4 post on this site explaining the potency of Scorpio's henchman, Pluto when on the rampage: these extracts are worth noting -

Scorpio is the zodiac sign that carries Pluto's deep and often dark themes - power -its use and misuse, all matters concerning death and transformational events, the minefield surrounding sex and reproduction.

...when Scorpio energy is expressed extremely negatively lives are snuffed out, bodies are violated, people are tortured, enslaved, subjected to extreme mind control. 

In November 2015

the Scorpio Sun-Moon conjunction [New Moon] connects with the position of Uranus, which brings sudden violent or sudden accident forces with likely fatal consequences to those closely resonating with that prevailing pattern [indicated in a personal birth chart].
This represents a riskier than usual period from November 8-14 as Pluto also brings to the fore thoughts of domination and control, along with thoughts of a wounding or damaging nature. 
In total, not a pleasant combination.

Venus and Mars activating the lunar nodes imply karmic male-female interactions which set the scene for some nasty outcomes. 
Be careful who you interact with in the stated period.
In addition collective events of a serious nature involving masses of people are within the range of possibilities

And so a forecast was made of extremely risky outcomes during the effective period of the November New Moon - [from 3 days before exact and extending till the December New Moon]

Where such energy is earthed can be the focus of specific astro-locality studies, but our small blue marble is capable of having multiple earthing points for strongly charged incoming patterns.
Tragically for France, it was Paris that once again [after Charlie Hebdo -January 7 2015] became a global ignition point regarding a clash of culture, ideology, belief that presents an extreme standoff between Western nations and Islamic fundamental jihadists
A representative time of 9.30 pm is indicative of the energy patterns in Paris.

At 9.30pm on November 13, 2 days after New Moon it is now Mercury inclose conjunction to the Sun emphasising Scorpio states of mind  -including death, destruction, revenge, control, cruelty, annihilation

Uranus in Aries  [sudden/unexpected explosive aggression][ position17 Aries activating Sun-Mercury at 19-21 Scorpio] as well as Aries energy is at the apex of the chart - all amplifying the destructive Scorpio potentials.
Another chart factor at 17 degrees - Chiron in Pisces - faith, truth, idealism & illusion all shattered by the shocking violence
Jupiter almost 19 Virgo & almost exact opposite Chiron both served to exaggerate extreme beliefs and to intensify states of mind such as shock, bewilderment, confusion
Aries is a critical trigger energy on this day and at this time because the last lunar eclipse of 2015 [September 28] was at 4.40 Aries - a sensitive degree position awaiting activation by any relevant trigger in the 6 month effective eclipse time frame.

At 9.30pm the Midheaven of the chart [MC] was 2.41 Aries.
By 9.38 pm with multiple attacks underway the midheaven point of 4.40 Aries was exactly triggered the war-like aggression promised by the September Aries eclipse.
Why this was so pronounced and extreme is evidenced by energies clustered in the lower left quadrant: 
the north lunar node almost in exact conjunction to the ambassador of Aries energy, Mars, then Mars in close conjunction to Venus, both equally astride the central vertical chart axis at virtually 3 degrees Aries-Libra - a combination sending a domino-effect of turning-point energy to masses of people -these factors analysed in the November forecast as:
collective events of a serious nature involving masses of people

north lunar node, Mars, Venus at IC axis point

Scorpio's emissary, the rampaging Pluto is not obviously connected to this horrific combined scenario at first glance - but midpoint positions are regularly revealing of what cannot immediately be seen.
The grid below presents all chart factors compared -so that the position at which the combined energy of any pairing is activated is obvious and therefore whether it is significant activation point.
On November 13 2015
Pluto has a midpoint with Jupiter at 16 Scorpio
Pluto has a midpoint with Mars at 22 Scorpio.
Giving a combined Jupiter-Mars-Pluto midpoint of 19 Scorpio.
The meaning of Jupiter-Mars-Pluto is extreme brutal force and/or violence

19 degrees activates, reinforces and amplifies all other factors already noted in the range 17-21 degrees.

midpoint positions of any paired factors at 9.30pm Nov 13

positions at 9.38pm Nov 13 Paris

This amount of intensity identified as converging is what is regularly observed in the energy patterns of major events - multiple factors within a very narrow range of degree positions, operating in synergy, with a domino-effect or chain reaction of forces combining.

Detailed timeline from 9.20pm on November 13

via Wall St Journal

update 20 November 2015
Jihadist attack in Mali mall also reflects the month-long themes in effect outlined in the Pluto/Scorpio astro-analysis report posted for November 2015

March 18 2016
Fugitive Salah Abdeslam arrested in Belgium
Abdeslam is the key suspect in the Paris attacks of November 2015. One of Europe's most wanted men, the suspect, aged 26, has been on the run since last November, eventually captured in his known neighbourhood of Molenbeek in Brussels.

November 2015 - the problems arising: astro analysis

A major planetary pattern with significant global implications builds through November 2015 and recurs significantly in 2016. [June-Oct]
November sees Saturn's energy at odds with that of Neptune.
When any planets are offset at 90 degrees a stressful incompatibility is generated in their energy fields. 

Saturn

This is Part 2 of the November 2015 analysis
For Part 1 which covers the energies in effect for the Paris attacks on November 13 go to Pluto on the Rampage

November 2015: Saturn is in Sagittarius and Neptune in Pisces when this square angle stress occurs.
Effectively from November 25-November 30 in particular forces will be locked into patterns that both manifest outcomes within that time frame but also set in motion patterns that were born in that time frame. 
Related effects are listed later in this post

A consideration of a range of related keywords gives some definition to the range of outcomes that will be recorded across diverse locations and contexts.
In all prevailing influences, people and locations do not equally experience the same intensity of impacts.
In order to strongly experience a related effect, the signature resonance of each place and person must match or have near correspondence to the type of pattern that is generated by planetary wave emissions.
Those lesser affected will simply read about, or view/listen to related news reports.


At the time of writing [November 12 2015] the two planets Saturn and Neptune are less than two degrees off their exact square angle - 7 degrees 2 minutes which occurs on 26/27 November [timezone dependent] 
This proximity of the two planets is enough to generate effects.

When Mercury also reaches 7 Sagittarius on November 25 conjoining Saturn and when the Sun reaches 7 Sagittarius on the 29-30th November, conjoining with Saturn -  in both of these periods the forces will be at right angles to Neptune so the Saturn-Neptune effects are amplified in the period 25-30 November and even into early December 2015. 

Here are some manifestations of the Saturn-Neptune-Sagittarius-Pisces energies involved.
Note that mostly challenging, difficult conditions arise with these combinations.

• Clash of beliefs - expect strongly opposed beliefs, repressive philosophies and rejection of religious or spiritual  perspectives
• Drought - Saturn restricting Neptune's water = declining soil moisture
• Damaging deluge or flooding - Saturn brings damaging effects after water initiates breakdown
• Restricted growth - Sagittarian expansion limited by Saturn's restrictive effect on water
• Maritime disasters - Saturn causes malfunction, restrictions, problems for vessels and people when travel by water is involved
• Insomnia - Neptune and Pisces are related to sleep. Saturn causes inhibited/restricted sleep
• Oil slump - Neptune's relationships include water, oil, chemicals, drugs, medicines, alcohol. Oil is heading downward and likely to be depressed on international markets whenever Saturn in Sagittarius is conflict with Neptune in Pisces.
• Economic downturn - e.g. a restricted growth cycle has once again resumed in China, with global implications.
• Reality versus Dreaming contrasts clearly the mindset of Saturn versus Neptune. Unrealistic schemes for business growth will fail.
• Legal problems due to alcohol/drug abuse or excess
• Liver problems from drug/alcohol abuse or excess
• Over-extension problems eg risk taking, excess physical effort due to poor judgement, confusion, being unrealistic
• Arthritic pelvic conditions due to toxic overload, dietary-induced inflammation.
• Paint, gas, chemical and oil related problems also includes biological problems from related toxicity, any negative outcomes from the use of such substances. Problems with painters, paint quality.

A positive outcome for Pisces/Neptune dominant people:
Saturn is the reality factor offset against Neptune's illusions, delusions, fantasies, escapism.

This can being Pisces/Neptunians down to earth in a beneficial way, bringing back structure, goals, plans, ambitions, managed growth, career focus -as a counterpoint to the dissolute, aimless, drifting, unfocussed existence that is likely to have preceded this new opportunity for balance.

A good time for sports people [Sagittarius] to abandon drugs and alcohol [Pisces] and make a commitment to attain mastership in their field [Saturn]



Looking forward to the bigger picture in 2016 because only some of the Saturn-Neptune issues will arise in late Nov 2015, or they will begin and not be resolved or completed until late 2016:

• the year sees repeated Saturn-Neptune combined effects
• June 2016 expect to see many themes arise during this month especially in the first week as detailed below-  
• [when 12-13 degrees also involves the Gemini Sun and 14 Virgo brings Jupiter into the picture meaning al1 4 mutable signs activated - Pisces opposite Virgo, Gemini opposite Sagittarius and form the mutable cross at the June 5 Gemini New Moon -energies flowing into July, August and September.

• The involvement of the Moon's lunar nodal axis becomes highly relevant from mid-June 2016 [when Jupiter in Virgo merges with the Virgo-Pisces axis in the 15-16 degree range while Saturn and Neptune occupy  12 degrees.]

• The 9 Virgo solar eclipse New Moon at the start of September occurs opposite Neptune in Pisces with these factors all at odds with Saturn in Sagittarius. 
• Soon after, Sun, lunar nodes, Mars, Saturn and Neptune will collectively amplify mutable sign energies relating to water -extremes of drought in places, extremes of deluge or flood in others with mass effects. Growth and production from the soil environment to the factory production line are equally affected.
• Economic effects are inevitable including rising unemployment, declining company values, national GDP impacted negatively.

• If you think these indicators hold the potential for global recession you could be correct.

• September 2016 as well as November 2016 are 2 months to watch in these respects both environmental/climate related and economically.

Neptune

Update Nov 14
With the mass attacks in Paris late on Friday Nov 13 the Saturn-Neptune energy brings another expression to the fore:
It is likely that public sentiment will strongly converge around a Saturnian or negative/severe/restrictive response to migrants/refugees in addition to the perceived threat from radicals driven by religious fundamentalism
Saturn in Sagittarius translates as fear/rejection, dislike of foreigners. 
This energy will be at odds with the compassion or sympathy/humanitarian response typical of Neptune in Pisces.


This is Part 2 of the November 2015 analysis.

Part 1 on Pluto in November 2015

Notes:
Saturn is detailed in depth on this site* and many references to Saturn in Sagittarius as well as Neptune and mutable energies .
To look at the combined effects means finding what sort of synergies are possible with Saturn and Neptune. This process looks at the keyword combinations that express the inherent Saturnian and Neptunian qualities as well as the relevance of their current passages through Sagittarius and Pisces.



Further Reading
*Saturn -your best guide 
Neptune in Pisces
Sleepy, Druggy Neptune

Pluto, boss of Scorpio, on the rampage

Every year for 3 weeks in November, 

Pluto is the boss

 

2015 sees Pluto with a Capricorn flavour -both Plutonians and Capricornians are control freaks at their worst -most comfortable when dominating or managing the behaviour of others, to their standards.

Pluto though is a very extreme version when taking domination to the maximum - torture, homicide, violation.

Ideally Pluto in Capricorn enables Scorpio types and Pluto responders to learn self management as well as the supportive guidance of others and a policy of benevolent support.

In societal terms Capricorn reflects the energy of governments and the banking system. 

Both of these institutions have undergone intense transformational experiences in places across the globe during the Pluto in Capricorn period since 2008, assisted by the role of Uranus in overturning systems, many societies have shifted towards austerity measures [whilst the elite enjoy ever more stratospheric benefits, perks and salaries]

We have only just witnessed the start of real austerity in this century. Much more radical change is on offer -and detailed extensively on this blog, accessible via keyword search.

Scorpio is the zodiac sign that carries Pluto's deep and often dark themes - power -its use and misuse, all matters concerning death and transformational events, the minefield surrounding sex and reproduction. 

update Nov 11-12 -Reported globally: NZ Prime Minister in widespread condemnation for using the issue of rape as a political tool. 

At the highest level, Scorpios and those influenced strongly by Pluto are capable of a major evolutionary journey in one lifetime, regularly developing their inner strength and extending their insights. 
Scorpios operating at their peak have immense healing ability, being capable of harnessing transformational energy for the benefit of others.
The metaphysical or energy realm existing beyond the physical is the level of perception that advanced Scorpios can tap into and utilise. In the simplest of terms, many have obvious psychic or pre-cognitive abilities.

Those Scorpios who linger in their attachment to power over others, manipulation, domination and cruelty are the ones to avoid. 

Having power over the lives of others is a responsibility few manage with humility so it comes as no surprise that when Scorpio energy is expressed extremely negatively lives are snuffed out, bodies are violated, people are tortured, enslaved, subjected to extreme mind control. Possessiveness and jealousy are classic Scorpio traits.

In November 2015
the Scorpio Sun-Moon conjunction [New Moon] connects with the position of Uranus, which brings sudden violent or sudden accident forces with likely fatal consequences to those closely resonating with that prevailing pattern [indicated in a personal birth chart].
This represents a riskier than usual period from November 8-14 as Pluto also brings to the fore thoughts of domination and control, along with thoughts of a wounding or damaging nature.
Pluto's close, but not exact angle to Uranus [Pluto in Capricorn-Uranus in Aries square at 4 degrees separation] evokes extreme destructive, violent and revolutionary forces
In total, not a pleasant combination.
Update Nov 14
Terror in Paris. Dozens slain in multiple coordinated attacks on Friday Nov 13 beginning around 9.45pm -CNN report
The atrocities committed have many of the hallmarks of a Plutonic rampage.
Also read extended post Slaughter in Paris November 2015

Venus and Mars activating the lunar nodes imply karmic male-female interactions which set the scene for some nasty outcomes. 
Be careful who you interact with in the stated period.
In addition collective events of a serious nature involving masses of people are within the range of possibilities

update November 21 2015
It comes as no surprise that a significant milestone has been reached in the West's response to Jihadism following the attacks in Parisian public places on November 13. French President Hollande promptly declared France to be at war with Islamic fundamentalists

This is part one of the November 2015 report.

PART TWO for November 2015 separately posted
An indepth look at the global consequences of Saturn and Neptune 2015-2016

Further related reading:
Posts on the astrological indicators of: Brutal Austerity, Power, Predators and Narcissists, Sex Offender Profiling, Nasty Criminal Energy